Artist Submission Hell: A Love Story

Filed Under (Rants) by FuNkwoRm on 17-08-2011

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Today is a day when I would normally post music from independent hip hop artists. Tuesday evenings are one of the days I set aside to listen to submissions for posting the following day. After my 3rd week of going through over 2 hours of unusable submissions, I asked my self, “dude, what in the hell are you doing?” And I took some time to reflect on how I got here. Follow me…

After 2 1/2 years, this blog’s popularity is increasing among independent hip hop artists. Nothing could make a blogger happier than to have his or her blog strike a resounding chord with audience they’re trying to target. Some of the music I’ve been introduced to in the process has been one of the greatest rewards of running this blog.

When I started IndieHipHop.net, artists submissions and reviews were intended to be just a small part of this site. In fact, I was only profiling one artist every Wednesday back then. Why? Because I saw the big shift taking place in the music industry, and I knew that hip hop artists were going to need information that would help them with their independent music careers.  I also knew that I could never keep up with the new music release game that other hip hop blogs have done very well. In addition, I didn’t want to put a lot of hard work into a blog where what I posted yesterday became old news and was irrelevant.

So over time, more artists began submitting music for my “artist of the week” slot, and I soon discovered that there were very few hip hop blogs that supported independent or lesser known hip hop artists. No problemo! I’ll be glad to support the underdog. Back then the volume of submissions were manageable, but I soon had to start posting more artists on Wednesdays because, at my usual pace,  it was taking a very long time before artists would get a shot at being posted on the blog. Tuesdays became my listening day and I happily looked forward to hearing new music from indie and underground artists who lived in various places across the world. This was dope because I didn’t know shit about running a blog when I started, and the emails of support from independent artists were very encouraging.

Still, even though I was listening to more music and posting more artists, I was able to keep the primary theme of music business dominant in the blog. I developed the fairest system for submissions that I could come up with. I listened to all music submitted and I listened in the the order they came in. Over time I made a few personal connections with a handful of artists that I’d bump to the front of the line, but this was only because they consistently put out great music and were huge supporters. You gotta reward that. There were bad submissions always coming through from artists just not following simple directions, but this only confirmed my belief that the business information was still desperately needed. About 2 years in, this started to become a big enough problem to suck some of the fun out of going through submissions. And I’m a firm believer that if you’re not having fun doing something, stop doing it.

I’m not sure when the big wave hit, but this blog’s submission email address landed on many promotional e-blast lists. Promo companies started putting me on it, then the artists. Fewer submissions were personal,and I just became one of 50 other bloggers the submission would be sent to. I have no problem with this as long as the transfer of the music is easy for me. But the vast majority of these were just reoccurring emails of links to mixtapes and submissions that didn’t contain what I needed for a post. Some bloggers are really particular about the way they want music sent to them, but I became flexible in the way I’d except the delivery.

Fast forward to now, and my inbox is getting an average of 60 submissions per day. And I’m not counting the e-blast submissions. I’ve clearly posted what I need for a post on my contact page, yet I still get lots of emails with just a YouTube link. “Hey I’m an up and coming rapper and I want to be on your blog”. Then the artist just inserts a link to a Facebook page. And there’s…”Hey, check out my mixtape. Tell me what you think.” No pic, no info, and no website. But more abundantly, there are the artists who just don’t take their music seriously. Now I wouldn’t be bothered by this if the opening of these emails didn’t collectively take up so much of my time and keep me from getting to the good shit. Because of the volume, now it’s taking me even longer to get to artists submissions. An artist trying to promote his or her new single may not get seen for 2 months at the current pace, and I understand how sometimes artists need these post to be in sync with their maketing plans.

I wish I could wave a magic wand that would direct me to the good submissions in my inbox, but I can’t. If you’ve noticed lately, I’ve started adding more popular indie artists in the mix. This is due to the fatigue I’ve been getting from going through the pile. Basically anybody with a microphone and a ripped YouTube instrumental can send me music and use up a portion of my time. And they do. I’m still going to accept submissions but my system of posting will change. At this point I’m not sure how though. I’m writing this on a Tuesday evening after just discovering the need to create a better filter. I’m open to any and all suggestions from my readers. This blog will continue to support independent hip hop artists. It’s just time to develop a more effective way to spotlight those who are serious about their craft.

 

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  • Ace

    Sorry to hear it. Have you tried blocking/Mark as spam people that choose not to pay attention to your guidelines? If its at this point, you gotta filter it (like you said). In any case you cant let them ruin something that people who pay attention, appreciate!

  • http://quickbeats.net/blogs/rap-beats/ FuNkwoRm

    Ace, you can spam out bad music unfortunately and people who don’t follow directions. I appreciate you concern and the blog will not be ruined. I just have to find a better way of managing this while continuing to make this blog better. And I will! Thanks for the feedback!

  • Rosie J

    I enjoyed reading this. The first thing that came to mind when reading this is when people ask me if I can help them, I ask them to send me their bio & website info and they honestly treat me as if those things aren’t needed anymore with Facebook and YouTube. What some don’t get is that even though the industry has changed some things remain the same. One thing I learned when working for a music marketing company is that 90% of the time radio stations, websites, and magazines will delete your email if there isn’t an actual press kit. And that includes a bio, pictures, websites, and of course the music. And if they do take the time to listen, getting airplay or a feature boils down to the music being good.

    To me it seems like a no brainer. It’s like getting a job…. Everyone is doing the same thing… so wouldn’t you want to set yourself apart from the rest so that your music actually gets heard?

    I can go on and on today but unfortunantly I am busy right now. lol.
    Great post!

  • http://www.youtube.com/midcoastmedia Dj Quicksilver Cooley

    Maybe u should get ur site a Dj who could assist u on listening to new music …

  • http://quickbeats.net/blogs/rap-beats/ FuNkwoRm

    @Rosie I know that you’ve experienced some of these same issues. In a perfect world, everyone would have their stuff together. Unfortunately that wil never be the case.

    @DJ Cooley. hmmmmm Yeah, I would have to find one who has a good taste for music. You know anyone? LOL!!

  • http://drakeblackmon.bandcamp.com Drake Blackmon

    Very interesting read. I seem to find this a common theme along w/ annoying trends from artists which, if i remember correctly, was posted not too long ago. Good to know.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD004HzmIYA&sns=tw lajit

    I really enjoyed reading this. I’m an artist and this blog made me change my view drastically when submitting music now. Thank you for this.

  • http://ReLLMuzik.com ReLL P.

    Hey man i been trying for about a year now to get some of my work posted on your sight..check me out http://ReLLMuzik.com

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/adjperiod adj.

    I’m new to your blog, and, quite honestly, I found it searching for blogs to submit music to.

    What I sent was a couple of YouTube links (of videos I personally spent 4+ hours on each) and a message that I typed to you by hand.

    I tried to meet your requirements… but I don’t have a bio, but what I do have is strong hip-hop music to share. Music that I stand by.

    So, there you go. If you heard and didn’t like it (not likely) that’s cool. But I hope you at least heard it…

  • http://quickbeats.net/blogs/rap-beats/ FuNkwoRm

    That’s just it. I’m glad that you posted this. You’ve spent 4+ hours on each video and you couldn’t take out 20 good min to write a bio or hire someone to do it. If I opened your email and just saw links to 4 videos with no information or links to a twitter account, facebook page, or website, I more than likely deleted it without listening. How is a post supposed to be of any help to you with no information? I don’t ask for much. HELP ME HELP YOU!

  • http://www.twitter.com/lajit210 lajit

    This blog right here is something that needs to be where artist are trying to submit music. Something they have to read before they submit anything. They all may not read it but it’s very informing and might change a couple of minds like it did myself.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/adjperiod adj.

    I am almost positive that I put the Facebook link (http://www.facebook.com/adjperiod). but I might not have.

    Should I resubmit? I may have messed up the submission process, and if I did, I’m sorry.

    That is why I am here. I took the time to make these videos because it gives the listener/watcher the full experience.

    My music is good, I know that. I am here because I want it heard…

  • Rosie J

    @adj I write bios.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/adjperiod adj.

    @Rosie J I’d like to talk about it, but you have no contact info.

  • Rosie J

    @adj Email me at rosarie.jenkins@gmail.com

  • http://keepitdope.com K.I.D.

    Hey there I am probably guilty of submitting to you with just a link although i don’t remember because i usually have a format…this other blog from my city has a format where you must include a bio, a picture and either a link from a sharing website or a direct mp3…i think if you post a strict format (down to having a format for the subject line) people can be weeded out…hope i was of help and ill await feedback or ur plan!! good blog!!!

  • http://sykophunk.com JVB aka joe DOE

    This is probably the best way to find a better submission process right here: open dialogue with artists and other bloggers. I am both, so I understand the process from both angles. Either way, you’re probably wearing multiple hats and doing everything yourself, so the repetition can sometimes take the fun out of what you normally love to do. We need to remember that a personal connection goes much further than formalities, usually.

  • http://www.DONDAVIEA.com DON DAVIE A

    Hey, Peep game…. This is what you should do…. For the record, my stuff is good and hopefully, you will take my advice, and check my stuff out…. In a nut shell, you have a butch of Robots and Stupid people how can’t follow directions (Cyborgs) and ultimately, your inbox box gets flooded with a whole bunch of crap…. You need to ensure that people are READING the instructions…. SOOOO, this is what you do…

    1. Create a random-ass code that changes from week to week. like this: 01ihrnqpof0
    2. Included this code in your instructions and tell us (the artist) to include this code in the body of our submission emails along with everything else that is need for a submission.
    3. On that Tuesday that you check out all the new music, do an advanced search in your inbox for that code… only the people who followed the directions and included the code will show up.

    With this plan, I am banking of the fact that, most people dont read or follow directions… The people that do, will read the instructions and follow them. It’s the nature of the beast, we are some thirsty ass niggers…. That just how we are…. If there is an inbox, it will get filled with crap… My plan would be an easier way to sort through all the crap… Good luck, and………CHECK OUT MY SHIT!!!! LMAO.

  • http://tm101radio.com/ TM101 Radio

    Hey funk I was in the same exact postion as you although not near as much volume of submissions as you..but i was getting tired of artists adding me to their mailing lists and sendings all kind of invites for linkedin and facebook and I was even getting dumb emails like “HOW DO I SUBMIT?” that those emails outnumbered my actual submissions. not only that every email was different..meaning some submissions would have key info (bio, social links, etc) and some wouldn’t even have so much as a pic attached..SO I CHANGED EVERYTHING WITH THE LAUNCH OF THE NEW WEBSITE..

    FOR starters I created a Submission form on the website that you can see hear http://tm101radio.com/submit-music that is also a little quick questionairre thats asks all the key questions that i need answered to properly add a submission to the station. Artist can submit 2 tracks and pic and I get all the info I need..then for those artists that are only pushing a video I added a seperate submit link for videos http://tm101radio.com/submit-video ..I made these pages seperate from the Contact page so there is no confusion as to how to submit to us. These 2 options protect my email address and the artists receive an auto reply from us if there submission made it to my inbox. Also I made an FAQ page here http://tm101radio.com/faq that answers some questions I get on the regular..As you can see from the first bullet I mention why I no longer give out my email address..Oh yeah on the submit music page depending on the genre an artist picks when they submit my gmail inbox automatically sorts the submissions in seperate folders 1 for hip hop, 1 for R&B, 1 for video and 1 for the contact page.. VERY ORGANIZED SYSTEM and since I started using this system I no longer use services like sonicbids for submissions cuz this gives me everything I need in one email..I can send you a sample of how the emails look when an artists submits and you can see how extremely easy they are to go thru..anyway I hope this helps you out and since you are using wordpress lmk if want help setting up a similar scenario or if you want to know what plugin I am using for it..

  • http://www.billacamp.com billa

    It might suck to filter through, but it could be the other way around. That means you’re moving up in the blogosphere.
    I always said you gave out some of the best info for indie Artist and showed the most love. I guess everyone else found out too.
    Keep up the good work!

  • http://quickbeats.net/blogs/rap-beats/ FuNkwoRm

    Great advice TM101! You have a dope site for independent artist as well. I put you in my blogroll. I’m going to spread the word about what you’re doing.

    @Billa Hey, fam I know that I’ve posted you few times here. I dig your style fam and look forward to hearing more. I greatly appreciate the kind words.

    Peace

  • True Life Q

    I just seen a brother say some real music business game that I think all you rappers should network with http://www.YouTube.com/Jazzysgetsomegame it’s just nice to see people like this man taking the time out to school us young lost rappers…Because it’s not a lot of people that even care like this brother.

  • http://www.youtube.com/Tresean11 Tronic

    Hey, Whats up? I checked out your blog and its GREAT. I LOVE music, Im a young recording artist (rapper) named “Tronic” and Im trying to get signed by a major record label and get out there you know?, and since I like your blog Im asking if you can like put some of my music on there? Like promote some of my music. I Appreciate it if you can.

    Want to hear my music?
    http://www.youtube.com/Tresean11

    Feedback?

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  • xcv-1996

    Thanks for the tip. I’ll improve the quality of my music and my bio so I can forward some new music to you.Thanks!